Sorry, Vidqun, your 'facts' are myths and rumours that have been shared around the world for gullible people to share to even more gullible people.
Dig deeper, your portrayal of Gibraltar is fiction. Look closer at the charts and read a lot more varied information from reputable sources. The link you posted is full of misleading comments.
Another thread where some are just throwing around numbers which they have heard and not checked.
Point in case: Israel- they are NOT 95% vaxxed.
If you are going to use data to make a point, at least check it first.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/israel_coronavirus_full_vaccination_rate
dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
Ok, DD, I watched your video and I have some questions and comments for you.
Nothing in your video negates what I said about alternative treatments, some might work, some might not, once again no one is stopping doctors from using anything available to them.
You obviously believe this particular doctor is worth mentioning because he is achieving amazing patient success rates because of his use of math+ drugs including ivermectin. His patient death rate is about 6.7%, much less than the rest of the country, which is great.
How then, do you explain Australia's death rate of only 2.5%?
By the way, we don't use ivermectin.
dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
DD- seriously- did u take a course on how to be a condescending wanker?
dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
I actually dont know why so many people are completely hung up on ivermectin, as if it is the big, secret answer to the pandemic.
As Rocketmans list points out, there are a lot of different drugs being used to treat the symptoms of covid, no one is stopping them from being used, whether they work or not. If a treatment is available to a doctor, Im sure they will try it.
Maybe- just maybe, researchers were prioritising an actual vaccine- NOT merely treatments, and that is why research into other drugs- like ivermectin was secondary to getting a working vaccine.
Now, after months and months, there is anecdotal evidence that some of these drugs may help, but you have to take off your conspiracy hat for a few minutes and read the data for what it is.
For example, the information I've read about ivermectin being effectively used in Brazil is at best anecdotal for now. Some doctors say it helped for some and not for others. There are many factors when it comes to mortality, but If their death toll is an indicator, I would probably prefer the vaccine.
in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.
in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.
i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.
Big voices seemed to start during the Trump era and continue thanks to the pandemic.
dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
Brazil uses a lot of ivermectin- hows it working out for them?
news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
Rivergang, there is evidence of global warming everywhere you look.
A lot of the same people that don't accept the science are the people that are anti vaxxers, anti maskers anti 5g etc.
If the earth's temp changes a couple of degree's over a century, what's the big deal they say?
The big deal is that it only takes a couple of degree's to change the earth from being cold, to becoming an iceball. Or, going the other direction in temperature , a tolerance of a couple of degree's that drives extinction events.
dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
DD said:
"There would be no mass ICU issues if known, tested, and proven methods of prevention with decades of real testing had been implemented from the start."
Exactly what treatments are you referring to here?
dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
Well DD, which is it?
Was it better to lock down, or let covid rampage unchecked?
Im referring not only to mortality rates but the sheer amount of people that would need hospitalisation and ICU support. Can you imagine the affect on supply chains, as anonymous pointed out, if uncontrolled amounts of people got sick?
Its not rocket science, restrict movement == restrict spread of virus.
